challenge. but he has come up with a number of innovative and creative ideas about how it might be included in what's considered. so, look, the important thing is republicans and democrats have come together around a comprehensive plan that reforms the entitlements, reforms the tax code of the united states, and cuts spending. reduces the debt by almost $4 trillion over the next ten years, and, you know, you had 50 senators at a meeting this morning, the vast majority saying, hey, this is headed in the right direction. >> the problem is the other side of the capitol, where as you know the house republican majority has said flat out, no way. and a lot of those new members, more than 200 of them, have signed pledges say we will not under any circumstances raise taxes. how would you walk across the capitol, senator chambliss, and say, look, i know you don't want to do it, but here's why you have to do it? >> look, john, what they've said is, the same thing i've said, they don't like tax increases.